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Citibank: Too Big To Fail And Apparently Too Big To Manage
J.D. Power confirms what we all already knew: this is one broken bank

Vernon Hill  ( about me )
Posted 06/02/2009
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As U.S. taxpayers spend massive amounts to save Citigroup, we are reminded yet again why that’s such a hopeless, pointless thing to do.

This time, the evidence of what a basket case Citi is comes from, J.D. Power & Associates, which on May 19 released the results of its 2009 retail banking "customer satisfaction survey." You won’t be surprised to learn that Citi came in dead last, or near dead last, in every region of the country where it has a retail banking presence. Here’s the honor roll:

-  In the Mid-Atlantic region, Citi came in tied for last among 23 institutions. 

-  In the Midwest, Citi tied for last among 21 institutions.

-  In New England, Citi tied for last among eight institutions.

-  In the Southeast, Citi tied for last among 22 institutions. 

-  In the West, Citi tied for last among eight institutions.

It was a clean sweep of the country, of sorts. No other bank did so poorly in so many regions. The only area where Citigroup didn’t bring up the rear was in the Southwest, where Citi managed a rating of “about average.” I assume Citi’s regional manager there will be fired any day.  

It takes a special sort of incompetence to be able to tick off customers from coast to coast. Yet for some reason, U.S. taxpayers—which is to say, you and me—are being forced to save a company that’s hated by both its customers and by its investors, and that has no perceptible competitive advantage. By now (and I’m being only slightly facetious when I say this) Citi’s sole purpose is to be a burden to the taxpayers.

In every financial crisis in memory, Citigroup has been the first to fall and has fallen the hardest. Multiple lavishly paid management teams later, the story’s the same—only more so. In this last cycle, not only has management failed to show any improvement, they’ve actually made things worse.  

It is time to let the markets work, and put Citi out of its (and our) misery.

What do you think? Let me know!


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Barry Demovsky Posted On 6/2/2009 10:07:09 AM

I ran the Citi Investment Bank In Chicago for five years in the mid 80's after being lured from the Brokerage Industry. I was named the best Division Head in December of 1986, in Jan '87 I was fired. My boss in NYC was a lifer, he couldn't take the incompetence anymore & quit. They brought someone else in & I was "not one of his boys". After I left, volume dropped 50% in our Branch. Nothing has changed. I now run a Private Investment Management firm. No one to blame except myself. I've being doing this for 16 years & have outperformed the S&P every year :-). I do appreciate your comments. Barry Demovsky

jsc173 Posted On 6/2/2009 12:21:22 PM

I think I can shed light on this one. In my days at Citi, branch managers were only internally focused because the only metrics they were accountable to dealt with how well they did compared to their internal peers. There was never an effort to compare to Chase or any of the other major external competitors. I'm sure some of that has changed, but apparently not enough.

Harry Weitzel Posted On 6/2/2009 1:34:22 PM

What's your feeling regarding just "biting the bullet" and forcably breaking up Citi into entities that no longer represent a systemic risk. God knows they arn't going to "get better" on thieir own.

Bob Gremley Posted On 6/2/2009 2:23:35 PM

What retail services are you speaking about? Is it really Citi Cards that is being rated by J. D Power? If so, your article was not clear on that point? However, if it was, I would guess that CitiCard is one of the largest credit card companies around. I would also guess that they have very high delinquency which might be one of the reasons they are so poorly rated because they are now a collection company. Was the survey conducted about all activities of CitiGroup? Please clarify. My intial impression is that your article is very misleading.

Cit Cit Bang Bang Posted On 6/3/2009 1:16:59 AM

You are absolutely correct. This bank is a prime example of an institution that should be put out of its misery. From the initial claim to be a "financial supermarket" (codeword for we buy lots of campanies to render our financial statements unreadable, to the refusal to write down its many non performing assets, this is an albatross on the financial system.

Jay Greenfield Posted On 6/3/2009 7:17:18 AM

They actually have customers? Every Citi branch I pass in the Philadelphia suburbs appears to be empty with the exception of employees.

citi employee- Loan Officer Posted On 6/3/2009 1:18:38 PM

Citi is in a pathetic state! Here we as tax payers are giving them a life line and internally they still have some ridiculous compensation packages. For example, they have Mortgage Loan Officers sitting in their Branches waiting for walk-in customers. They are on salary and highly commissioned Loan Officers and these same Loan Officers make a mockery of their management, stating that they are being paid "free money" for just sitting and taking walk in loan applications!

T P Tarp Posted On 6/3/2009 11:42:23 PM

break it up or shut it down. they can't let it continue the way it is. senior management should repay TARP from their personal assets.

cccccX5 Posted On 6/4/2009 9:20:06 PM

This from a CEO who (1) raped his shareholders by paying his wife exorbitant fees to "design" branches that all looked identical, (2) was being investigated non-stop by a plethora of regulators ;(3) promoted an unsustainable business model and (4) employed questionable methods to raise deposits from local municipalities. Last time I checked, Citigroup has contributed a lot more to the world economy than any of Vernon;s businesses. An opinion is only as credible as integrity of the source. Ha, ha.

pty Posted On 6/6/2009 12:09:45 PM

Yes, put it out of its misery and while you are at it put Chase out since it is just like Citi but even worse.

Analyze before you Criticize Posted On 6/7/2009 11:42:57 AM

And Bank of America was one or two places higher in each region. Yet sentiment on BAC is vastly more positive than on Citi. I don't care what anyone says, I like Pandit, and think he has the intelligence to get Citi out of this malaise. Pandit's educational background with a B.S. and M.S. in electrical engineering tells me that if he can solve complex problems involving electricity and magnetism, he can solve Citi's financial problems just as well. The amount of insider shares owned furthermore tells me that the ones most knowledgeable of Citi's health and future are positive and believe in the top management's ability perform in this unprecedented crisis under significant pressure. The disparity in sentiment of BAC vs. Citi is immensely disproportionate and thusly unrealistic at this juncture. Either BAC and Citi are largely still in the same boat, or Citi is not nearly as bad off as all of you pessimists make it out to be. I believe the latter to be true. The messes these institutions are in took years to create, and it will take just as long for them to recover from. Given enough time, Citi will make a drastic comeback. Citi's Q1 results were the best since Q3 in 2007. If we see further improvement in Q2 this year, Q1 should no longer be viewed as an anomaly but rather the beginning of a new positive trend.

Analyze before you Criticize Posted On 6/7/2009 11:50:53 AM

And Bank of America was one or two places higher in each region. Yet sentiment on BAC is vastly more positive than on Citi. I don't care what anyone says, I like Pandit, and think he has the intelligence to get Citi out of this malaise. Pandit's educational background with a B.S. and M.S. in electrical engineering tells me that if he can solve complex problems involving electricity and magnetism, he can solve Citi's financial problems just as well. The amount of insider shares owned furthermore tells me that the ones most knowledgeable of Citi's health and future are positive and believe in the top management's ability perform in this unprecedented crisis under significant pressure. The disparity in sentiment of BAC vs. Citi is immensely disproportionate and thusly unrealistic at this juncture. Either BAC and Citi are largely still in the same boat, or Citi is not nearly as bad off as all of you pessimists make it out to be. I believe the latter to be true. The messes these institutions are in took years to create, and it will take just as long for them to recover from. Given enough time, Citi will make a drastic comeback. Citi's Q1 results were the best since Q3 in 2007. If we see further improvement in Q2 this year, Q1 should no longer be viewed as an anomaly but rather the beginning of a new positive trend.

Former Citibanker Posted On 6/7/2009 1:10:53 PM

I left Citi about 9 months ago after 7 years in the Retail banking division. What is most distressing about these results is that they indicate a decline in customer satisfaction over the past year. Two years ago (2007) was the first time that Citi' s retail division even participated in this survey. The results then were predictably bad. Last year (2008) there was some positive movement. Citi was rated average in most markets. Now it is back to the bottom. Hopefully this is a temporary setback.

Look who is talking Posted On 6/7/2009 7:40:31 PM

You can thrash any company.. All these surveys can be manipulated to look any way you like.. So please quit whining and go something constructive

MacD Posted On 6/14/2009 11:03:05 AM

Your blame of Citi is incomplete without mentions of John Reed and Sandy Weil. After the debacle of the early 90s, which Reed admitted was his fault, he soon concluded that Citi's problem was its management. So he went about dismissing some truly talented people, starting with Citi's president through its vice-chairman and many others. For reasons that still mystify, he appointed a Philip Morris executive to run Citi's most profitable unit, its global retail bank, and a Providian Bank guru to run its golden goose, the domestic bankcard business. The Philip Morris guy had distinguished himself for marketing a lethal product, Marlboro cigarettes, which he once defended before a Senate commitee as not addicitve. He was clueless inside Citi. The Providian story hinted at Reed's penchant for ignoring due diligence. Shortly thereafter, Providian was shut down for massive, near-criminal abuses of its cardholders. On a roll, Reed turned over the keys to Citi to Travelers and Sandy Weil's management to inspire a new vision. Instead they turned it into an ethical sink hole that has severely damaged the economy of our planet. It is sad that while several hundred thousand Citi employees around the world could lose their jobs Messrs Reed and Weil will pass their remaining years in enormous wealth and stature instead of the ignominy they deserve.

Chow Lee Purin Tzu Posted On 8/31/2009 1:34:14 PM

For the past half year I have been nickel and dimed on fees because they delinked my brokerage account when they set up their joint venture. CmitiBarnk must be dismantled, or better yet, sold in pieces to Morgan StTanley! Then poor Vik Pandit will be the conquering hero instead of Fanfared Bile's sucker.
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